DRAFT*DRAFT*DRAFT*DRAFT*DRAFT*DRAFT INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the July 10, 2003 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES ------------------ Harald Alvestrand / Cisco Rob Austein / IAB Liaison Steve Bellovin / AT&T Randy Bush / IIJ Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB) Bill Fenner / AT&T Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc. Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent Thomas Narten / IBM Erik Nordmark / Sun Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc. Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat Bert Wijnen / Lucent Alex Zinin / Alcatel REGRETS ------------ Marcia Beaulieu / IETF Secretariat Michelle Cotton / ICANN Jacqueline Hargest / IETF Secretariat Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor) MINUTES --------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the June 26, 2003 Teleconference were approved pending removal of the "Web notes." The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Review of Action Items DONE: o Harald Alvestrand to talk to RFC Editor about independent submissions. o Thomas Narten to coordinate and send comments on minutes to the Secretariat. IESG to review the format of the minutes and propose changes to improve readability and communication to the outside world. o Steve Bellovin to make proposal to discuss "problem" at the Sunday IESG meeting in Vienna. o Thomas Narten to write up issue with references in draft-dasilva-l2tp-relaysvc-06.txt and start discussion in IESG list. DELETED: NONE IN PROGRESS: o Allison Mankin to review draft-agrawal-sip-h323-interworking-reqs and send decision to IESG. o Bert Wijnen to document process of how the IESG goes about asking architectural questions of the IAB. o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how to get to Draft." o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship with IAB. o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option. o Randy Bush and Ned Freed to finish ID on Clarifying when Standards Track Documents may Refer Normatively to Documents at a Lower Level. o Alex Zinin to send proposal and justification for interim document review. o Steve Bellovin to propose a different document classification than the current info/proposed/etc. o Alex Zinin to phrase a question to RTG and OPS Area Directorates and IAB on PPVPN issue. Alex to summarize the results as a proposed IESG consensus regarding the PPVPN issue to be given to the PPVPN working group. NEW: o Ted Hardie to send the Secretariat a message to forward to the RFC Editor indicating that the Do Not Publish note that was originally created for draft-paskin-doi-uri-03.txt also applies to draft-paskin-doi-uri-04.txt. 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-atommib-atm2-19.txt - 1 of 10 Definitions of Supplemental Managed Objects for ATM Interface (Proposed Standard) Token: Nordmark, Erik The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Erik Nordmark. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-policy-qos-device-info-model-10.txt - 2 of 10 Information Model for Describing Network Device QoS Datapath Mechanisms (Proposed Standard) Token: Wijnen, Bert The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Allison Mankin.* o draft-ietf-policy-qos-info-model-05.txt - 3 of 10 Policy QoS Information Model (Proposed Standard) Token: Wijnen, Bert The document was deferred to the next teleconference by Steve Bellovin. The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-sip-sctp-03.txt - 4 of 10 The Stream Control Transmission Protocol as a Transport for for the Session Initiation Protocol (Proposed Standard) Token: Mankin, Allison The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ned Freed, and Ted Hardie.* o Set of two documents - 5 of 10 - draft-ietf-ips-fcip-slp-07.txt Finding FCIP Entities Using SLPv2 (Proposed Standard) - draft-ietf-ips-isci-slp-06.txt Finding iSCSI Targets and Name Servers Using SLP (Proposed Standard) Token: Mankin, Allison The documents were deferred to the next teleconference by Thomas Narten. The documents remain under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Ted Hardie.* o draft-ietf-sipping-3pcc-04.txt - 6 of 10 Best Current Practices for Third Party Call Control in the Session Initiation Protocol (BCP) Token: Mankin, Allison The document was deferred to the next teleconference by Steve Bellovin. The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Erik Nordmark.* o draft-ietf-dnsext-rfc1886bis-03.txt - 7 of 10 DNS Extensions to support IP version 6 (Draft Standard) Token: Nordmark, Erik The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Erik Nordmark. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-ospf-hitless-restart-07.txt - 8 of 10 Graceful OSPF Restart (Proposed Standard) Token: Zinin, Alex The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ted Hardie.* o draft-ietf-webdav-ordering-protocol-09.txt - 9 of 10 WebDAV Ordered Collections Protocol (Proposed Standard) Token: Hardie, Ted The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Allison Mankin.* o draft-ietf-avt-rtcp-report-extns-06.txt - 10 of 10 RTP Control Protocol Extended Reports (RTCP XR) (Proposed Standard) Token: Mankin, Allison The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Jon Peterson and Allison Mankin. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. 2.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-dnsext-gss-tsig-06.txt - 1 of 7 GSS Algorithm for TSIG (GSS-TSIG) (Proposed Standard) Token: Nordmark, Erik The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-katz-yeung-ospf-traffic-10.txt - 2 of 7 Traffic Engineering Extensions to OSPF Version 2 (Proposed Standard) Token: Fenner, Bill The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Thomas Narten, and by Thomas Narten on behalf of IANA.* o draft-ietf-dnsext-ad-is-secure-06.txt - 3 of 7 Redefinition of DNS AD bit (Proposed Standard) Token: Nordmark, Erik The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Erik Nordmark. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis-06.txt - 4 of 7 The E.164 to URI DDDS Application (ENUM) (Proposed Standard) Token: Mankin, Allison The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ted Hardie.* o draft-ietf-sip-scvrtdisco-04.txt - 5 of 7 Session Initiation Protocol Extension Header Field for Service Route Discovery During Registration (Proposed Standard) Token: Mankin, Allison The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Allison Mankin on behalf of IANA.* o draft-ietf-magma-mld-source-07.txt - 6 of 7 Source Address Selection for Multicast Listener Discovery Protocol (RFC 2710) (Proposed Standard) Token: Nordmark, Erik The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-mobileip-mipv6-ha-ipsec-06.txt - 7 of 7 Using IPsec to Protect Mobile IPv6 Signaling between Mobile Nodes and Home Agents (Proposed Standard) Token: Narten, Thomas The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Randy Bush.* 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item NONE 2.2.2 Returning Item o draft-legg-ldapext-component-matching-11.txt - 1 of 1 LDAP & X.500 Component Matching Rules (Proposed Standard) Token: Hardie, Ted The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Ted Hardie. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-gsmp-reqs-06.txt - 1 of 3 Requirements For Adding Optical Support To GSMPv3 (Informational) Token: Wijnen, Bert The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Allison Mankin and Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-sipping-3gpp-r5-requirements-00.txt - 2 of 3 3rd-Generation Partnership Project (3GPP) Release 5 requirements on the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) (Informational) Token: Mankin, Allison The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* Allison Mankin will prepare a revised IESG Note. o draft-ietf-manet-tbrpf-09.txt - 3 of 3 Topology Dissemination Based on Reverse-Path Forwarding (TBRPF) (Experimental) Token: Zinin, Alex The document remains under discussion by the IESG to address points raised by IANA.* 3.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-pkix-ipki-new-rfc2527-02.txt - 1 of 4 Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure Certificate Policy and Certification Practices Framework (Informational) Token: Housley, Russ The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-ippm-owdp-reqs-06.txt - 2 of 4 A One-way Active Measurement Protocol Requirements (Informational) Token: Mankin, Allison The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* o draft-ietf-manet-olsr-11.txt - 3 of 4 Optimized Link State Routing Protocol (Experimental) Token: Zinin, Alex The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Alex Zinin. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-crisp-requirements-05.txt - 4 of 4 Cross Registry Internet Service Protocol (CRISP) Requirements (Informational) Token: Freed, Ned The Document remains under discussion by the IESG.* 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Item o draft-savola-ipv6-127-prefixlen-04.txt - 1 of 2 Use of /127 Prefix Length Between Routers Considered Harmful (Informational) Token: Bush, Randy The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a n individual submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-siemborski-mupdate-04.txt - 2 of 2 The MUPDATE Distributed Mailbox Database Protocol (Experimental) Token: Freed, Ned The document was deferred to the next teleconference by Ted Hardie. 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor 3.3.1 New Item o draft-song-pppext-sip-support-02.txt - 1 of 1 SIP server IPCP configuration option for PPP (Informational) Token: Narten, Thomas The IESG recommends that the RFC Editor does not publish this document. The Secretariat will send a "do not publish" message prepared by Thomas Narten to the RFC Editor. 3.3.2 Returning Item o Set of three documents - 1 of 3 - draft-sun-handle-system-11.txt Handle System Overview (Informational) - draft-sun-handle-system-def-08.txt Handle System Namespace and Service Definition (Informational) - draft-sun-handle-system-protocol-05.txt Handle System Protocol (ver 2.1) Specification (Informational) Token: Hardie, Ted The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing these documents. Ted Hardie will prepare a "no problem" message, and forward it to the Secretariat to send to the RFC Editor. o draft-bradner-pbk-frame-06.txt - 2 of 3 A Framework for Purpose-Built Keys (PBK) (Informational) Token: Bellovin, Steve The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* o draft-leech-chinese-lottery-04.txt - 3 of 3 Chinese Lottery Cryptanalysis Revisited: The Internet as Codebreaking Tool (Informational) Token: Bellovin, Steve The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor that includes an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Steve Bellovin. 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 5. Working Group News We Can Use 6. IAB News We Can Use 7. Management Issues o Sunday's agenda (added by Harald Alvestrand) - Is 1000-1400 enough time? - Are the topics listed the most important ones? (discussed) o Routing Protocol overload (added by Alex Zinin) (discussed) ---------------------------------------- * Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.