Editor's Note: Minutes received 7/30 CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_ Reported by Constance Fleenor Lloyd/Lloyd and Associates Minutes of the Point-to-Point Protocol Extensions Working Group (PPPEXT) Brian Lloyd opened the meeting stating that there is a small problem with with proceeding with RFC 1334 (Authentication) that he hoped to clear up this week in a meeting he had scheduled with Steve Kent of the IAB. General Collectively, RFCs 1331, 1332, 1333, and 1334 will completely replace RFCs 1171, and 1172. Document Status Appletalk, and OSI documents are currently at last call. Copies of the Appletalk document can be obtained from Brad Parker. A show of hands was requested for how many are building routers. About twelve hands were raised, and a second show of hands indicated about nine were planning on CLNP. It was stated that these people need to read the document (ietf.drafts.pppext.osi.txt). TELEBIT PPP-a-thon Mark Lewis reviewed the results of the PPP-a-thon, in which ten vendors made their various PPP options interoperate. Vendors mapped protocols to media, and implementations. Work done at the PPP-a-thon resulted in an update to RFC 1220; clarifying negotiation of all mac types. The wording in RFC 1220 is not clear on results of mac negotiations. The proposal is to yank mac type, and LAN type from 1220, and add option to state mac address to the RFC. Fred Baker, the author of RFC 1220, is going to make the changes to the RFCs. Another PPP-a-thon is planned for the week prior to Fall INTEROP '92. This will also serve as a hot stage for the INTEROP PPP demo/solutions showcase which is planned if Brian Lloyd can get confirmation from at least 15 vendors for participation. It is hoped that some new implementations will be available for this week. INTEROP PPP Solutions Showcase Demo If enough vendors sign for participation there will be a PPP demo at INTEROP. Charge for participation in the INTEROP PPP demo will be $4,000. Brian Lloyd feels that a centralized demonstration is best, rather than the distributed demo of 1990. The demo booth should be as 1 self-contained as possible. All possible aspects of PPP would be part of the demo; dial-up, and leased-line asynchronous; synchronous 56K to T3; switched services including dial-in ISDN, and switched 56; etc. Enough participants present at the meeting confirmed interest in the INTEROP demo to provide the required 15 vendors. LAPB, and Compression Fred Baker led discussion on the subject of LAPB, and compression; There was lively discussion on using more than one compression algorithm concurrently; and if so should one NCP identifier be used, or subprotocol identifiers. Note: The issues were later addressed in BOFs, resulting in consensus on a complete compression configuration protocol. Fred Baker is writing a draft document that describes the compression mechanisms and negotiations. IPX Chris Ranch, from Novell, led discussion on IPX over PPP. Novell is publishing an information RFC on IPXWAN; available via ftp novell.com. IPXWAN will be essential for interoperability with Netware. They will work on IPXCP options for a paper that will obsolete IPXWAN in the future. Twelve people raised their hands when Chris asked who is doing IPXWAN with PPP. A small group consisting of Mark Lewis, Bill Simpson, Brian Lloyd, Glenn McGregor, and Chris Ranch met with Marty DelVechio at Shiva in a BOF to discuss Bill Simpson's document that attempts to converge the Shiva and Novell NCP documents. Bill Simpson will modify his convergence document based on the results of the discussions at the BOF and repost it. DECNET Craig Fox led discussion on the DECNET draft. He made some changes to the explanatory passages in the draft, removed a section, and moved a section of text. The text was posted as a new draft the next day. 116/32 Bit FCS Tony Lauck said that DEC, in compliance with standards policy, will charge a ``reasonable'' fee to use for DEC's 48 bit FCS. Numbers on the order of $1,000 or more were bandied about by Mr. Lauck. This was not well received by the Group. The general consensus is to seek a different mechanism to negotiate 16/32 bit FCS. Both Craig Fox and Karl 2 Fox suggested mechanisms based on sending two initial configuration requests using both 16 and 32 bit FCS. A new document that does not make use of any of the DEC mechanisms is likely. MIBs Frank Kastenholz described how the single large MIB document had been divided into separate MIB documents to match with the existing LCP, NCP, LQM, and authentication documents. He asked if there were any objections to submitting MIBs for Proposed Standard. There were no significant objections. Attendees Steve Alexander stevea@i88.isc.com Sam Ayers s.ayers@sybus.com Fred Baker fbaker@acc.com Jim Barnes barnes@xylogics.com Luc Boulianne lucb@cs.mcgill.ca Steve Buchko stevebu@newbridge.com David Carr dcarr@gandalf.ca Greg Celmainis gregc@newbridge.com Dean Cheng dean@sun2.retix.com Chris Chiotasso chris@artel.com Henry Clark henryc@oar.net James Cobban jcobban@bnr.ca Andy Davis andy@spider.co.uk Marty Del Vecchio marty@shiva.com Pierre Dupont dupont@mdd.comm.mot.com Robert Finn rfinn@wellfleet.com Constance Fleenor Lloyd cfleenor@lloyd.com Craig Fox foxcj@network.com Scott Ginsburg ginsburg@wellfleet.com Martin Gray mg@spider.co.uk Chris Gunner gunner@dsmail.enet.dec.com James Harville jbh@unh.edu Dwight Jamieson djamies@bnr.ca Bob Jeckell rrj@3com.com Frank Kastenholz kasten@ftp.com David Kaufman Alan Kullberg akullber@bbn.com David Kumpf kumpf@hprnd.rose.hp.com Anthony Lauck lauck@tl.enet.dec.com Gordon Lee gordon@ftp.com Mark Lewis mlewis@telebit.com Brian Lloyd brian@lloyd.com Keith Mader keith@microcom.com Glenn McGregor ghm@merit.edu Greg Minshall minshall@wc.novell.com Mary Christine O'Connor oconnor@interlan.com Larry Palmer larry%acts@uunet.uu.net J. Bradford Parker brad@cayman.com 3 Jay Pasco-Anderson jay@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com Lars Poulsen lars@cmc.com Venkat Prasad vsp@3com.com Christopher Ranch cranch@novell.com John Shriver jas@proton.com William Simpson Bill_Simpson@um.cc.umich.edu Mark Smith mcs@umich.edu Chris Sullivan mm@gandalf.ca Richard Sweatt rsweatt@synoptics.com Kannan Varadhan kannan@oar.net Gregory Vaudreuil gvaudre@nri.reston.va.us John Veizades veizades@apple.com Jesse Walker walker@eider.lkg.dec.com Scott Wasson sgwasson@eng.xyplex.com James Watt jamesw@newbridge.com Luanne Waul luanne@wwtc.timeplex.com Honda Wu natadm!honda@uunet.uu.net 4