IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG) REPORT FROM THE TELECONFERENCE April 27th, 1992 Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary This report contains - Meeting Agenda - Meeting Attendees - Meeting Notes Please contact IESG Secretary Greg Vaudreuil for more information. ATTENDEES ---------- Almquist, Philip / Consultant Borman, David / Cray Research Chiappa, Noel Crocker, Steve / TIS Coya, Steve / CNRI Davin, Chuck / MIT Gross, Philip / ANS Hinden, Robert / BBN Huizer, Erik / SURFnet Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI Regrets Crocker, Dave / TBO Estrada, Susan / CERFnet Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS Reynolds, Joyce / ISI AGENDA ------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Bash the Agenda 1.2 Approval of the Minutes No minutes ready for review 1.3 Next Meeting 2.0 Review of Action Items 3.0 Protocol Actions 3.1.1 IDPR 3.1.2 PPP Authentication 3.1.3 IP over X25/ISDN 4.0 Old Protocol Actions Proposed Standards 4.1 RFC 1144 VJ Header Compression 4.2 RFC 1139 ISO "PING" 4.3 RFC 1094 NFS 4.4 RFC 1057 RPC 4.5 RFC 1056 PCMAIL 4.6 RFC 1037 NFILE 4.7 RFC 1026, 987 X.400(84) <=> RFC 822 Mapping 4.8 RFC 977 NNTP 4.9 RFC 953 Hostname Server 4.10 RFC 913 SFTP 4.11 RFC 887 Resource Location 4.12 RFC 734 SUPDUP Draft Standards 4.13 RFC 1115, 1114, 1113 Privacy Enhanced Mail 4.14 RFC 951, 1084 Bootstrap Protocol 5.0 Technical Management Issues 5.1 ROAD Recommendation 5.2 Review of Reporting 5.3 Remote Database Access over TCP 5.4 Dead/Sleeping Working Groups 5.5 IETF Plenary Meeting Schedule 6.0 Working Group Actions To be created 6.1 Network Access Servers (nasreq) To be Concluded/made dormant 6.2 Router Discovery 6.3 Bridge MIB 6.4 Decnet Phase IV MIB MINUTES ------- 1.0 Administrivia 1.1 Review the Agenda The Agenda was reviewed and several topics were added. 1.2 Review of Minutes No Minutes were available for review at this meeting. 1.3 Next Meeting The next meeting was set for Monday April 4th, EDT. 2.0 Review of Action Items Review of the action items was deferred. 3.0 Protocol Actions 3.1 InterDomain Policy Routing (IDPR) Discussion is continuing on the IDPR Working Group mailing list. The topics include questions on the intended standardization status and technical design choices. To broaden the discussion, and clarify the intended status for IDPR, the IESG. agreed that the current recommendation from the working group for Proposed Standard should be sent to the IETF as a last call. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call to the IESG for the elevation of IDPR to Proposed Standard. 3.2 PPP Authentication A new version of this document was posted to the Internet Draft directory. It was not clear whether this was the latest version nor whether it satisfied the editorial concerns of the Security area. Pending clarification of the version number, the IESG approved this document for Proposed Standard. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Work with Steve Crocker to determine if the latest PPP Authentication Internet Draft is the latest version, and if so send a recommendation to the IAB. 3.3 IP over X.25/ ISDN Packet Mode The IESG received a request to elevate the IP over X.25 document to Proposed Standard. A last call has been issued and has not yet expired. Technical discussion on this protocol was deferred until the next meeting. 4.0 Old Protocol Actions The IESG has begun the task of reviewing protocols which have been in grade for more than 2 years. During this meeting the IESG made a first cut and assigned reviewers for the protocols. The RFCs discussed are listed below. 4.1 RFC 1139 ISO PING Dave Piscitello took an action to review the current implementation and operational experience of this protocol. ACTION: Piscitello -- Contact Sue Hares to begin an investigation into the implementation and operational status of this protocol to determine if it is ready for Draft Standard. 4.2 RFC 1139 NFS 4.3 RFC 1194 RPC These protocols are in a confused state. They document widely used but proprietary protocols and would not meet current requirements for Proposed Standards. It is also not clear whether these documents reflect the latest versions of the protocols nor the versions widely implemented. The IESG feels that these protocols are appropriate candidates for standardization provided the normal IAB standardization rules and proceedures can be met. There has been sporadic dialogue with SUN Microsystems on the status of these protocols. If Sun does not desire to standardize these protocols with the current rules, the IESG will recommend moving these protocols to historical state. ACTION: Borman -- Contact Sun and explain the current status of NFS and RPC and the new requirements for standard track protocols. Determine if Sun is interested in pursuing standardization. 4.13 Privacy Enhanced Mail At the request of the PEM working group, the IESG decided to recommend moving the PEM protocol as defined in RFCs 1113 1114 and 1115 to historical status. This action will hopefully reduce confusion for implementors of PEM who continue to use these outdated specifications. By recommending that the RFC's defining PEM be moved to Historical Standard, the IESG is not recommending that PEM itself be moved to Historical Standard. It is expected that PEM as defined in several Internet drafts will become a Proposed Standard in the near future. Action: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call for comments on moving the RFC's defining PEM to Historical Status. 4.14 RFC 951, 1084 Bootstrap Protocol The Dynamic Host configuration Working Group is using Bootp as the basic of the DHC protocol. Bootp as defined in RFC 1084 needs clarifications. A document in the Internet Drafts directory describes updates and clarifications to Bootp. BootP as written should not advance. There is some talk of making a bootp version 2 which includes the work of the DHC Working Group. The future status of Bootp needs clarification. ACTION: Chiappa and Borman -- Research and present to the IESG a recommendation for the disposition of RFCs 951 and 1084, the Bootstrap Protocol. 5.0 Technical Management Issues 5.5 IETF Plenary Meeting Schedule The IESG continued the discussion on the IETF plenary schedule and decided to move the Open plenary to Thursday Evening to open up more time for working group sessions. The IESG will meet together after the plenary session for a dinner and short working session. The IESG will continue to have lunch on Wednesday, but opted against using another evening to conduct business that could be done by teleconference. The new schedule: Mon. Tue. Wed. Thu. Fri. 0900-0930 Plen Tech Tech Tech Tech 0930-1200 WG WG WG WG Area Reports 1330-1530 WG WG WG WG 1600-1800 WG WG WG Tech 1900-2200 BOF/WG** BOF/WG BOF/WG Open Plenary The following Topics were deferred until the next meeting. 5.1 Routing and Addressing Recommendation. The draft IESG recommendation was not yet ready for review. 5.2 Review of Reporting 5.3 Remote Database Access over TCP Russ Hobby was unable to attend the IESG teleconference and discuss this issue. 5.4 Dormant/Dead working groups 5.6 TSIG/ IETF Interactions 6.0 Working Group Actions To be created 6.1 Network Access Servers (nasreq) To be Concluded/made dormant 6.2 Router Discovery 6.3 Bridge MIB 6.4 Decnet Phase IV MIB