IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the IESG Teleconference September 21st, 1992 Reported by: Steve Coya This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items. For more information please contact the IESG Secretary. iesg-secretary@nri.reston.va.us Attendees: Almquist, Philip / Consultant Borman, David / Cray Research Coya, Steve / CNRI Crocker, Steve / TIS Davin, Chuck / Bellcore Gross, Philip / ANS Hinden, Robert / SUN Hobby, Russ / UC-Davis Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet Regrets Crocker, Dave / TBO Huizer, Erik / SURFnet Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI Reynolds, Joyce / ISI 1) Following a warm and neighborly greeting, it was decided that the minutes of September 10 and 14 are to be edited and resubmitted to IESG for review. 2) TCP/IP Header Compression: Dave Borman reported that he had received responses to his queries, and that he is reviewing them. 3) SNMP over OSI, SNMP over Appletalk and SNMP over IPX were approved for recommendation to the IAB as proposed standards. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send recommendation to the IAB to publish the SNMP over OSI, SNMP over Appletalk and SNMP over IPX documents as Proposed Standards. 4. The BGP default route document has been edited, submitted and announced as an Internet Draft, and is ready to move forward. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a LAST CALL for BGP default Route to the ietf announcement list. 5. IDENT Some edits are being made to the document. One the new version is received, a second last call will be issued. Two weeks following that, it will be recommended to the IAB that IDENT be accepted as a Proposed Standard. Steve Crocker to provide text for minutes of September 10 meeting. The IDENT MIB is ready to go forward. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- After the IDENT protocol is approved by the IESG, send a recommendation to the IAB that the IDENT MIB be accepted as a Proposed Standard. 6. There was an extended discussion on the advisability and desirability of moderating the IETF discussion list. Much of the discussion focused on the mechanics of moderating the list, and whether or not individual should be prevented from sending mail to the discussion list. It was generally accepted that whatever is done, it must be announced prior to implementation. ACTION: Coya/Vaudreuil -- Look into mechanisms to intecept messages before they go to the list. General switch that can quickly be turned on. 7. The IESG discussed Sender-Initiated File Transfer (SIFT), a document submitted as an Informational RFC. The need for such a facility was discussed, and it was decided to initiate discussions with the author. ACTION: Hobby -- Send a note to the author of the SIFT protocol. Determine what features are missing from FTP that SIFT handles, and whether FTP be enhanced to meet the community needs. 8. Russ Hobby mentioned in passing that he was married over the weekend. Congratulations Russ! 9. The Reynolds/Hobby "Package" of an architeture and four WGs was approved. In addition to sending the announcement of the WGs to the ietf, both RIPE and RARE should be copied, espeically since the package contains a cohesive architecture. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send out the entire Information architecture package to the ietf. Copy RIPE and RARE, and include statement which highlights existance of architecture. 10. It was stated that Remote Conferencing (remconf) was NOT to become a working group. The members of the BOF have been focusing in writing an architectural document, and are expected to submit it as an Internet-Draft. It is anticipated that, as a result of the architecture, a number of working groups will be formed to work on the items identified within the architecture. 11. There was continued discussion on the subject of improving the quality of work performed by the WG/IESG. Briefly discussed was whether the Secretariat tracking information should be included in the recommendation to the IAB, which lead into a discussion on the quality of the WG data maintained, specifically noting the charters and milestones and their relation to reality. There was not enough time to sufficiently review Phill's message to the POISED WG on Quality Control, and this discussion will continue at the next IESG teleconference. A concern of "not the whole story provided" was raised to the suggestion that administrative data be included in the IAB Recommendation. Consensus seemed to indicate a need for tracking each and every step (chronological audit trail) of an item as it goes through the IESG, resulting in a stand-alone historical package at completion of effort. Phill wants to make statement of positive steps being taken. ACTION: Coya/Vaudreuil -- Look into what information is carried and what needs to be done to establish a protocol standards track audit trail. Appendix -- Action Items -------- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send recommendation to the IAB to publish the SNMP over OSI, SNMP over Appletalk and SNMP over IPX documents as Proposed Standards. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a LAST CALL for BGP default Route to the ietf announcement list. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- After the IDENT protocol is approved by the IESG, send a recommendation to the IAB that the IDENT MIB be accepted as a Proposed Standard. ACTION: Coya/Vaudreuil -- Look into mechanisms to intecept messages before they go to the list. General switch that can quickly be turned on. ACTION: Hobby -- Send a note to the author of the SIFT protocol. Determine what features are missing from FTP that SIFT handles, and whether FTP be enhanced to meet the community needs. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send out the entire Information architecture package to the ietf. Copy RIPE and RARE, and include statement which highlights existance of architecture. ACTION: Coya/Vaudreuil -- Look into what information is carried and what needs to be done to establish a protocol standards track audit trail.