INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the August 19, 2004 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES ------------------ Harald Alvestrand / Cisco Steve Conte / ICANN (IANA) Michelle Cotton / ICANN (IANA) Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB) Bill Fenner / AT&T Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc. Scott Hollenbeck / VeriSign Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC David Kessens / Nokia Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent Thomas Narten / IBM Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc. Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor) Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat Margaret Wasserman / ThingMagic Bert Wijnen / Lucent REGRETS ------------ Rob Austein / ISC (IAB Liaison) Steve Bellovin / AT&T Alex Zinin / Alcatel MINUTES --------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the July 22, 2004 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved Since the July 22, 2004 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-sip-session-timer-15.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2-04.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-raeburn-krb-rijndael-krb-07.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-aaa-diameter-nasreq-17.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-ipsec-udp-encaps-09.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-rmonmib-sspm-mib-12.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-xmpp-e2e-09.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-clearmode-05.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-blunk-rpslng-08.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-iptel-rfc2806bis-09.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-mboned-embeddedrp-07.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-send-ndopt-06.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ymbk-downref-03.txt (BCP) o draft-klensin-process-july14-02.txt (BCP) o draft-iesg-rfced-documents-03.txt (BCP) 1.2.2 Document Actions o draft-gurbani-sin-02.txt (Informational RFC) o draft-ietf-l2vpn-l2-framework-08.txt (Informational RFC) o draft-ietf-midcom-semantics-08.txt (Informational RFC) o draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-security-04.txt (Informational RFC) o draft-ietf-v6ops-isp-scenarios-analysis-03.txt (Informational RFC) 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: NONE DELETED: o The Secretariat to save the alternative procedure for updating MIB modules for their use. IN PROGRESS: o David Kessens, Steve Bellovin, and Alex Zinin to discuss a charter for a new Operations and Management Area working group for OPSEC. o Bill Fenner to determine with WG chairs whether a liaison with OIF is desirable, and will inform the IAB of the decision. o Applications ADs to evaluate the situation with regards to MIME type review, and see how we can ensure the review turnaround times specified in the MIME registration procedures. o Allison Mankin and Thomas Narten to compose a message for the IESG and IAB related to 3GPP's Release 6 publication deadline and expedited documents. o Harald Alvestrand to clarify what actions are needed to enforce the new boilerplate. August 19, 2004 is the proposed deadline for accepting I-Ds with old boilerplates. All I-Ds submitted after this date require the use of the new boilerplate. o Allison Mankin will encourage Dave Meyer to go forward with his I-D on IETF minutes, and will suggest some IESG points for it. NEW: o The Secretariat to add Aaron Falk to the iesg@ietf.org mailing list and to teleconference participation materials. o Margaret Wasserman to take the lead in drafting a description of the positions to be filled by the NomCom. Allison Mankin, Thomas Narten, and Alex Zinin will do an initial review; the document should be ready to be reviewed by the IESG before the next teleconference (09/02/2004). o Harald Alvestrand, with others as required, to have a discussion with Alex Zinin regarding the time commitment and role of a NomCom liaison. o Bert Wijnen to collect IESG and IANA feedback on openBSD/carp IANA assignments and send the collective feedback to the IAB. MOVED TO PROJECTS: o Bert Wijnen to finalize text for the alternative procedure for updating MIB modules and put it on www.ops.ietf.org Web site. o Bert Wijnen to provide text for the alternative procedure for updating MIB modules to the Secretariat, so the Secretariat can make sure Internet-Drafts follow this procedure. 1.4 Review of Projects 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-smime-cms-seed-01.txt - 1 of 3 Use of the SEED Encryption Algorithm in CMS (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-ipsec-esp-ah-algorithms-01.txt - 2 of 3 Cryptographic Algorithm Implementation Requirements For ESP And AH (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Thomas Narten.* o draft-ietf-geopriv-pidf-lo-02.txt - 3 of 3 A Presence-based GEOPRIV Location Object Format (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley.* 2.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-aaa-diameter-mobileip-20.txt - 1 of 6 Diameter Mobile IPv4 Application (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Thomas Narten.* o draft-ietf-sigtran-m2pa-12.txt - 2 of 6 Signaling System 7 (SS7) Message Transfer Part 2 (MTP2) - User Peer-to-Peer Adaptation Layer (M2PA) (Proposed Standard) Token: Jon Peterson The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.* o draft-ietf-rmonmib-tpm-mib-14.txt - 3 of 6 Transport Performance Metrics MIB (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Allison Mankin.* o Four-document ballot: - 4 of 6 - draft-ietf-tewg-diff-te-proto-07.txt Protocol extensions for support of Differentiated-Service-aware MPLS Traffic Engineering (Proposed Standard) - draft-ietf-tewg-diff-te-mam-03.txt Maximum Allocation Bandwidth Constraints Model for Diff-Serv-aware MPLS Traffic Engineering (Experimental) - draft-ietf-tewg-diff-te-mar-04.txt Max Allocation with Reservation Bandwidth Constraint Model for MPLS/DiffServ TE & Performance Comparisons (Experimental) - draft-ietf-tewg-diff-te-russian-06.txt Russian Dolls Bandwidth Constraints Model for Diff-Serv-aware MPLS Traffic Engineering (Experimental) Token: Bert Wijnen The documents remain under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Scott Hollenbeck, Allison Mankin, Thomas Narten, and Alex Zinin.* o draft-ietf-tewg-mib-08.txt - 5 of 6 A Traffic Engineering MIB (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-dhc-subscriber-id-06.txt - 6 of 6 DHCP Subscriber ID Suboption for the DHCP Relay Agent Option (Proposed Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ted Hardie, and Margaret Wasserman on behalf of IANA.* 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item NONE 2.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-fax-gateway-options-07.txt - 1 of 5 Guideline of optional services for Internet FAX Gateway (Informational) Token: Scott Hollenbeck The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Harald Alvestrand and Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-nsis-signalling-analysis-04.txt - 2 of 5 Analysis of Existing Quality of Service Signaling Protocols (Informational) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Allison Mankin.* o draft-ietf-tewg-interas-mpls-te-req-08.txt - 3 of 5 MPLS Inter-AS Traffic Engineering requirements (Informational) Token: Bert Wijnen The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Bert Wijnen.* o draft-ietf-v6ops-ent-scenarios-05.txt - 4 of 5 IPv6 Enterprise Network Scenarios (Informational) Token: David Kessens The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by David Kessens. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-capwap-problem-statement-01.txt - 5 of 5 CAPWAP Problem Statement (Informational) Token: Bert Wijnen The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Harald Alvestrand.* 3.1.2 Returning Item NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Item o draft-dcsgroup-sipping-arch-01.txt - 1 of 1 Architectural Considerations for Providing Carrier Class Telephony Services Utilizing Session Initiation Protocol SIP-based Distributed Call Control Mechanisms (Informational) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ted Hardie, Russ Housley, and Bert Wijnen.* 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor 3.3.1 New Item o draft-foster-mgcp-lockstep-01.txt - 1 of 3 Media Gateway Control Protocol (MGCP) Lockstep State Reporting Mechanism (Informational) Token: Jon Peterson The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor that includes an IESG Note to be prepared by Jon Peterson. o draft-foster-mgcp-redirect-05.txt - 2 of 3 Media Gateway Control Protocol (MGCP) Redirect and Reset Package (Informational) Token: Jon Peterson The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor that includes an IESG Note to be prepared by Jon Peterson. o draft-motonori-dualstack-smtp-requirement-01.txt - 3 of 3 SMTP Operational Experience in Mixed IPv4/v6 Environments (Informational) Token: Bert Wijnen The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ted Hardie.* 3.3.2 Returning Item NONE 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 5. Working Group News We Can Use 6. IAB News We Can Use 7. Management Issues 7.1 Additional person in RFC Editor Liaison role (Harald Alvestrand) The management issue was discussed. The IESG decided to accept the request from the RFC Editor to add Aaron Falk to the IESG mailing list and the IESG Teleconferences. Action item: The Secretariat to add Aaron Falk to iesg@ietf.org mailing list and to teleconference participation materials. 7.2 IESG liaison to 2004-2005 Nomcom (Harald Alvestrand) The management issue was discussed. The IESG did not make a decision at this time regarding the IESG Liaison to the NomCom. Action item: Margaret Wasserman to take the lead in drafting a description of the positions to be filled by the NomCom. Allison Mankin, Thomas Narten, and Alex Zinin will do an initial review; the document should be ready to be reviewed by the IESG before the next teleconference (09/02/2004). Action item: Harald Alvestrand, with others as required, to have a discussion with Alex Zinin regarding the time commitment and role of a NomCom liaison. 7.3 OpenBSD/Carp IANA assignments (Bert Wijnen) The management issue was discussed. Action item: Bert Wijnen to collect IESG and IANA feedback on openBSD/carp IANA assignments and send the collective feedback to the IAB. 7.4 RFC Editor issues (Joyce Reynolds) The management issue was not discussed. The issue was resolved prior to the beginning of the IESG Teleconference. ---------------------------------------- * Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.